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Smoke Signals with Aimee Bender

Interview by Michael Czyzniejewski (Read the Story) September 15, 2025

Aimee Bender

Photo by Mark Miller

You have three threads woven together here—the story of your father, of the taxed sump pump, and of Joni Mitchell making music—and it’s all seamless and brilliant. Are you on the lookout for events like this, elements you can combine into an essay, or did this one sneak up on you?

Snuck up on me! Though, it was also kind of in my face as I was experiencing it—watching my father’s swollen legs go down and seeing all that liquid pouring in the city. It almost felt too easy, gauche—but I liked that about it, too. The world ready for metaphor, offering it up. Then that idea ended up a part of the whole as well.

I’m much more familiar with your fiction than nonfiction. Anyone who has read your work knows you often fall under the fabulism moniker (maybe even define it). Can you talk about this departure, shifting to realism for CNF?

I still very much and thoroughly consider myself a fiction writer. Fiction is my main squeeze, no doubt, and I cherish the fabulism moniker. But sometimes something of life presents itself directly for writing, and that was this—trying to articulate something of what it felt like to be with my father during all that rain, to be with a beloved person while they decline. I’m Gen X and it’s what so many of my peers are going through right now—the aging parents, the growing kids, living the sandwich. “You are the deli meat!” my friend told me. And I feel that, being the deli meat of the generational sandwich. And that seemed like it warranted some time in nonfiction, even if a brief piece.

Following up on that, was there any thought of fictionalizing this story instead? I was thinking of “Marzipan” a bit when I read this, that narrator of yours considering her parents’ mortality, etc.

Nice! I am sure it’ll show up in fiction, but I never know how. Fiction does that trick of costuming things, so I don’t even quite know the source—for me, fiction’s costume is usually a conglomeration of many experiences mushed together, removed, made new, imagined, so that I can explore them all without knowing what I’m doing. That said, being with my dad at this last phase of his life was a time of a lot of emotional depth and sadness for me, so I’m sure that will work its way in.

The musical “third” of this story adds a soundtrack to everything, especially on second read, when you know what’s coming. I’ve heard that so much more recently, the “soundtrack” to a story, a novel, etc., what licensed music writers imagine for their work. Is this a practice you’ve adopted?

I didn’t know about that! Would love to hear more. Makes me think of “largehearted boy” who’s done a list for years, asking writers to essentially soundtrack their work, and that’s really fun to read and contribute to. In general, it’s hard for me to write about music. There’s something more meticulous in writing that, to me, in music, gets loose and spacious and then slips away from language. But it was helpful to think of my dad and Joni Mitchell and the other one, Judy Collins, and what songs he would walk around and sing, what songs shaped my childhood. My dad also loved Nina Simone and when he was very ill, and we put a little tape recorder near him playing old songs, he said, “That’s Nina!” at a time when he could barely talk. It was very moving, the immediate recognition.

I’m invoking Silence of the Lambs here, “Well, Clarice … have the lambs stopped screaming?” Instead, (in Hannibal Lecter voice): Well, Aimee … have the sumps stopped pumping?

Ha! And … yes. Now it’s another drought. We need the sump to find something to pump. But wow it lasted for months that other time. Into November, maybe? So much moss growing in little spots. All that’s dry and cracking now.

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About the Author

Aimee Bender is the author of six books: The Girl in the Flammable Skirt (1998) which was a NY Times Notable Book, An Invisible Sign of My Own (2000) which was an L.A. Times pick of the year, Willful Creatures (2005) which was nominated by The Believer as one of the best books of the year, The Particular Sadness of Lemon Cake (2010) which won the SCIBA award for best fiction, and an Alex Award, The Color Master, a NY Times Notable book for 2013, and her latest novel, The Butterfly Lampshade, which came out in July 2020, and was longlisted for the PEN/Jean Stein Award. Her books have been translated into sixteen languages.

Her short fiction has been published in Granta, GQ, Harper’s, Tin House, McSweeney’s, The Paris Review, and more, as well as heard on PRI’s “This American Life”and “Selected Shorts”.

She lives in Los Angeles with her family, and teaches creative writing at USC.

About the Interviewer

Michael Czyzniejewski is the author of four collections of stories, most recently The Amnesiac in the Maze (Braddock Avenue Books, 2023). He serves as Editor-in-Chief of Moon City Press and Moon City Review, as well as Interviews Editor of SmokeLong Quarterly. He has had work anthologized in the Best Small Fictions series and 40 Stories: A Portable Anthology, and has received a fellowship from the National Endowment of the Arts and two Pushcart Prizes.

This interview appeared in Issue Eighty-Nine of SmokeLong Quarterly.
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