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Smoking With S.H. Gall

Interview by Stefani Nellen (Read the Story) December 21, 2009

S.H. Gall

mask of smoke by Julian Schwarze

I love stories that feature running in one form or the other, and this one is extremely cool. Thanks for sending it to SmokeLong! (You might also want to check out “The Runner” by Curtis Smith in the same issue). Anyway: That ending. We discussed it quite a bit, and some of us felt that it came too much out of nowhere, and others, myself included, agreed, but thought that this was precisely the reason it worked. Would you like to comment on why you chose this particular type of ending with its sudden shift in perspective?

Given that the title of the piece is “Heavenward”, I feel like the reader might be expecting that at some point in the piece there could be a death. I am not, as a nontheist, particularly interested in the concept of an afterlife, but I do think about the daily possibility of my own death. This ending is how I imagine it might play out. The notion of being thrust outside the framework of time, with all the time in the (after)world to reflect. That conceptual paradox.

“There was no great mystery waiting to be solved or explained. Just Jogging Freak.” I don’t believe the narrator. I think there is some mystery, despite all of his careful, detached, dismissive explanations—something I can’t put my fingers on. Do you have any idea what it could be?

The mystery is a general one: what, if anything, motivates compulsive behavior in people? The story is an allegory for a strong personal sense of compulsion (the exact nature of which I’m not going to delve into). And then there’s the essential mystery of “How deeply can we ever understand another human being?” “Not very” being my conclusion, although the inquiry is of value.

Whenever I read a story about running (or even one that isn’t necessarily “about” running, but that alludes to it in ways that feel significant to me), I’m wondering what attracted the writer to the topic of running. This was the case with this story as well. So, what attracted you to the topic of running?

I was a tennis player in my teens, very athletic, and my sister was the runner. My father was both. So I grew up with the culture of running and of athletic pursuit. Running is a very lyrical thing. It’s solitary, and therefore mysterious. How well can one really know a runner? There’s something compelling about people who choose running as a pastime.

“The Unicorn”—this image leapt out at me. I wondered whether this was a nod to the venerable Boston Marathon (the symbol of the Boston Athletic Association and the Boston Marathon is a unicorn. Or did you think of something else entirely? Unicorns are, of course, very symbolic animals.

I wasn’t aware of the Boston Marathon symbol. I first came up with the head-mounted flashlight (are there such things?), and then pictured how that would look at night. I did worry that it was over-symbolic—our popular culture is pretty over-saturated with unicorn imagery—but I figured, well, that’s how it would look. I liked the idea of someone designated as a freak transforming into a sort of iconic symbolic figure.

About the Author

S.H. Gall likes writing for his friends. He has been published in China (print, web), Canada (web), and the U.S. (web, print). His greatest accomplishment is his life experience, the correspondence of which will appear posthumously.

About the Interviewer

Stefani Nellen is a psychologist-turned-writer living in Pittsburgh and the Netherlands with her husband. Her short fiction appears or is forthcoming in VerbSap, Bound Off, Hobart, Smokelong Quarterly, Cezanne’s Carrot, FRiGG, and Apex Digest, among other places. She co-edits the Steel City Review.

About the Artist

Julian Schwarze, born on May 12, 1989 in Frankfurt / Main, studied product design at the University of Art and Design Offenbach, graduated in 2015 and is currently a research associate and PhD student in project-mo.de with a focus on mobility design. His doctoral thesis deals with system transitions in mobility spaces and their user-centered design. During his studies he completed internships in design offices in the Netherlands and Hamburg. The main focus was on  brand- and user-centered design of industrial products, everyday products and packaging.

This interview appeared in Issue Twenty-Seven of SmokeLong Quarterly.
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