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Smoking With Abe Gaustad

Interview by Tara Laskowski (Read the Story) June 26, 2012

Abe Gaustad

art by Claire Callister

How did the idea for this story come about? Were you like, “A doctor who doesn’t like blood! Now that’s a crazy idea!”?

When you put it like that, it sounds kind of cheesy. But, yes. One of the ways I generate ideas is by just thinking of an interesting first line and going from there. “The new doctor was afraid of blood” suggests tension and mystery to me, and the pool and the brother soon arrived to help resolve both.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to make it sound cheesy. I actually think it’s a really cool idea—medical stuff is always tense and mysterious. Speaking of, what’s been your worst hospital or doctor experience?

Two words: barium enema. Still, the good thing about the hospital experiences I’ve had—either for myself or my loved ones—is that, despite the pain, the worry, the grief and the bills, the people have been exceptional. (If you’re wondering more about the barium enema, I plan on writing a thoroughly embarrassing essay about that experience sometime. Title suggestions welcome.)

So, I feel like I once read a horror story where one person gets trapped in an empty swimming pool and can’t reach the ladder to get out. But I have no idea who wrote it or what else happened. My point is, the image of the empty pool, and of the brother diving in, is such a wonderfully jarring and horrible image in this piece. Where did it come from?

I’m pretty sure I ripped off the empty pool from a horror movie I saw when I was a kid. As I remember it, this girl was a diver in the habit of going out each morning before sunrise for diving practice. The killer broke a few lights and drained the pool the night before. I hadn’t thought of this movie in years. In fact, I didn’t consciously remember the movie until I was nearly finished with the story.

How much do you love Ernie’s art to accompany this story?

Tons. The smiling skeletons creep me out in the best kind of way.

Do you mostly write flash, or are you working on a longer project right now?

Yes, I am working on longer stories now as well. I tend to work at flash and short stories very differently, and in trying to come up with a theory of why, I thought about a magazine called National Geographic World that I used to read back in the early 1980s. World was aimed at kids and had a lot of cool science-y stuff in it. But on the back cover they had a feature called “What in the World?” There were nine photographs arranged into a grid. Each photograph was an extreme close-up of some object or animal—sometimes an eye, sometimes the tiny teeth of a zipper magnified 20 times. The reader was then challenged to guess what these objects were. It soon became my favorite part of the magazine. You couldn’t know what the objects were, you had to use your intuition to get a sense of the whole.

I see flash fiction in a similar way. If you want a whole picture, read a novel. A short story might be likened to a close up. But flash fiction is a sort of distorted mystery. As in a blown up photograph of a seed, each detail becomes more important because of the lack of context and familiarity. As a result, my shorter pieces tend to be more experimental, more absurd with more jarring juxtapositions. But the great thing is that this absurdity and attention to detail can seep into my longer stories, strengthening them, even if the end effect is different.

About the Author

Abe Gaustad lives and writes in Germantown, Tennessee. His fiction has appeared in New Orleans Review, Third Coast, Other Voices, Memphis Magazine and elsewhere.

About the Interviewer

Tara Laskowski

Tara Laskowski has been editor at SmokeLong Quarterly since 2010. Her short story collection Bystanders was hailed by Jennifer Egan as “a bold, riveting mash-up of Hitchcockian suspense and campfire-tale chills.” She is also the author of Modern Manners For Your Inner Demons, tales of dark etiquette. Her fiction has been published in the Norton anthology Flash Fiction International, Ellery Queen’s Mystery Magazine, Alfred Hitchcock’s Mystery Magazine, Mid-American Review, and numerous other journals, magazines, and anthologies. Tara lives and works in a suburb of Washington, D.C.

About the Artist

Claire Callister is a native Californian who has been involved in art since the age of 10. Throughout her travels in the United States, Europe, Australia and New Zealand, she has honed her skills in illustration, primarily specializing in black and white pen-and-ink renderings. She graduated from Chapman University in Orange County, California, with a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree.

This interview appeared in Issue Thirty-Six of SmokeLong Quarterly.
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